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Retcon Patrol: 1-05 “Date Night” Part 3

by Terri
Date Night 3

Today we continue our search for inconsistent or comment-worthy moments in the Brothers & Sisters first season with a look at the third part of Episode 5. Read Part 1 and Part 2 if you need to catch up, then dive right in here with Part 3.

14:57
David is like a contractor and a designer all in one. And male escort. He’s a full-service kind of guy.

15:16
David’s going to take out an entire wall and fill it with French doors. Maybe that’s why I don’t recognize this little room they’re in. It’s not William’s office, because I’m pretty sure that was off the kitchen. This looks to be off the dining room. Am I just blanking here, or was this room not a regular fixture?

15:52
“My son and I are no longer seeing each other socially.” Love that line. It reminds me of how ticked my mom would get when I wouldn’t go to one of her functions. But in a good way.

16:37
Why do Walkers even bother to tell one another not to tell a secret, like Nora warns Kevin not to tell his sisters about her not-a-date with David? You know it’s going to happen, why waste the breath?

17:23
How old was the character of Amber supposed to be? The actress was born in 1978, so would have been about 28 when this was filmed in 2006. Do you think she was pressing the impressionable blonde ditz pedal a little hard? Someone that age working as an intern at a TV show should be a little less fluttery, no? It’s making me think about Emily Rose, who’s a few years younger and played someone who was fairly clear-headed and unapologetic about getting involved with the boss. As much as I hated the character of Lena, I maybe wouldn’t have minded seeing her take Kitty on in this situation.

19:04
Again I’m reminded of how much more I liked Sarah when she was an over-her-head working mom, before she became completely unhinged by her hatred for Holly. I can see why she would have latched on to Holly as the one thing she was allowed to really let her anger loose on, but I don’t think it did the character any favors.

19:31
Nora performs the very difficult “Flip an attack your child makes on you into an attack on them” maneuver, of which she is a master. Extra points for doing it when the subject is bra wearing.

20:55
This is how Nora describes Jonathan and every other boyfriend Kitty’s picked out since seventh grade: “Self-satisfied, smug men who have pathologically high self-esteem. Handsome, arrogant, self-centered Republicans.” Kitty calls her out for basically describing William. But would we say this description also fits Robert?

21:13
Nora claims that she wouldn’t attack Jonathan if Kitty really loved him, and my first impulse is to say, “Yeah, sure.” But she did pretty much stop dumping on Robert once Kitty got serious about him.

21:39
Nora goes from knowing exactly what to say to zing her children and torpedo their self-confidence to being absolutely tongue-tied in David’s presence. And as much as I wince when she’s harsh, I really hate when she’s a babbling idiot.

21:56
Nora sees Saul and Holly in a booth and is stricken. But didn’t she just recently give him (unasked-for) permission to date her?

22:10
Holly sees Saul looking ashen and asks if he had a bad scallop. I liked her in these early scenes before she was hateful and the subject of Sarah’s wrath — but as we learned in Season Two, a Holly who’s not causing trouble is a Holly who has nothing useful to do. Seems like we’re not going to have that problem in Season Three.

Continue on to Part 4.

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3 Responses to “Retcon Patrol: 1-05 “Date Night” Part 3”

  1. Sylviane Says:

    **** “Self-satisfied, smug men who have pathologically high self-esteem. Handsome, arrogant, self-centered Republicans.� Kitty calls her out for basically describing William. But would we say this description also fits Robert? ****

    Uh, yes, it does. It was my opinion of him for the season 1 and the largest part of season 2.

    But it is also an act, for Robert also has other qualities, his sense of humor is one of them, that makes his sweeter and nicer.

  2. Sylviane Says:

    I forgot to say that I am not sure about the’self-centred’ part. But I guess in order to do this sort of work you have to have all these things that Nora mentioned otherwise you won’t succeed.

    You have to make sure no one second-guesses your motivations/your decisions and you can’t do it, by being nice, cordial, caring, and by agreeing with everyone. Sometimes you just have to make unpopular decisions and those are qualities you will have to rely on to survive the impopular moments.

  3. Lorraine Says:

    Really nice analysis, especially on two points.
    1. “Self-satisfied, smug men who have pathologically high self-esteem. Handsome, arrogant, self-centered Republicans.â€? Describes William pretty well (especially self-centered). Robert was very much like this after he married Kitty but I hope he’s more 3-dimensional in Season 3.
    2. “but as we learned in Season Two, a Holly who’s not causing trouble is a Holly who has nothing useful to do.” - Is this why I dislike Holly so much? In real life, why wouldn’t you just avoid a person like this? She’s miserable and makes everyone else unhappy.

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